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Thank you for your comments Steve. I completely agree that there are a host of factors that contribute to difficulties in operationalizing a new approach to justice reform; and you identify several important ones. We tried to briefly touch on your second point of how current approaches serve the interests of development practitioners, but you raise additional important questions around the interests of government and international institutions. Comprehensive stakeholder mapping and political economy analysis—in addition to better understanding the experiences of users—will be critical in identifying pathways to change in any (‘justice’) project. I would suggest that reform efforts should first understand challenges faced by groups and individuals in a particular context, and then work to develop responses to support innovative arrangements—be they government, civil society, or others—that may help deliver more equitable and accepted outcomes. This might mean working through government, with civil society or hybrid institutions—as I would note that civil society and other actors are also not immune to corruption, biases, or elite control. Understanding how we might address some of the problems you identify certainly requires us to take evidenced-based, iterative approaches to reform that engage with a variety of potential partners.