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  • Reply to: Maps for Open Development   6 years 8 months ago
    if people help provide data for mapping, they should be able to share in and have access to it. right on.
  • Reply to: Maps for Open Development   6 years 8 months ago
    Its terrific to see the World Bank forthrightly address concerns with the Google agreement and state clearly their intention to support open data mapping efforts. The World Bank has consistently been real leaders both in the open data space and in supporting open source efforts like OpenStreetMap, so its great to you all re-iterate this. Unlike 10Com, I think most of us are quite happy that you're working with Google on getting their crisis mapping information faster, but weren't thrilled about the other implications. Speaking as a Co-founder of CrisisCommons (but I'm no longer in a leadership role there), a group supporting open data and open source in the crisis response space, the Bank's leadership especially in GFDRR has critical in this area, and its truly great to see it continue. Bravo!
  • Reply to: Maps for Open Development   6 years 8 months ago
    Welcome to the World Bank guiding principle: "if the public helps to collect or create map data, the public should be able to access, use and re-use that data freely." We hope this principle will be written down soon (in broader formulated wordings) in the World Bank set of guidelines. Within this discours it certainly is a step in the right direction that the World Bank has decided to stop the use of Google Map services for future projects. Against a background of principles like fair competition and due diligence it cannot be explained that an NGO exclusively uses one commercial company for all it's mapping projects. But it's only a first step. From the blogpost is to understand that Google Maps still will be used for projects that have been started in the past. Here we politely give the World Bank in consideration to investigate the monitoring and collection of visitor-data on the Google Maps platform and the re-use and monetisation of these data by Google. It than should be analysed whether these techniques fit into World Bank guidelines and whether they aren't breaching dataprotection- and privacy laws. A great way to empower citizens, NGO's and public bodies worldwide would be the development of a truely open, simple understandable, inter-operable, free mapping system. 10COM is an EU based independent initiative that strives for simple, effective sets of principle rulings, measures and business models to empower and protect the EU and it's (corporate) ciitzens in the Age of Digital.
  • Reply to: Maps for Open Development   6 years 9 months ago
    with several high profile map data consumers switching to openstreetmap, we at osm are always glad to collaborate with data users. if i recall correctly, world bank did use osm data back in haiti. why not come and work with us ? :)
  • Reply to: Building a Better Toolbox for Development   6 years 10 months ago
    It seems a bit wrong to hand over community data to a profit driven corporation like Google with no strings attached. Going with Open Street Map or negotiating the suggested licensing arrangement with Google would be appropriate. To be fair to Google they do have some good initiatives like the Data Liberation Front and Google for Non-Profits.